[Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu Marketing

Tue Feb 24 05:29:13 UTC 2009

Thanks for the ideas ... there we go again with that word ... ruiboon.
Its so difficult to make things easy ... really...

regards
Billy

On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 12:42 +0800, Rui Boon wrote:
> Heidir wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 09:32 +0800, C David Rigby wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 09:08 +0800, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I contacted LinuxNUS about it. Probably we can get them and it will be
> >> > better because they themselves are students at NUS. The only problem is
> >> > they have no idea about this presentation so we got to update them as we
> >> > go along.
> >>
> >>
> >> I am writing this just to TUSG for the moment.
> >>
> >> I have been copying Kheng Hui Yeo (icedwater at gmail.com <mailto:icedwater at gmail.com>) and linuxNUS
> >> core team (coeteam at linuxnus.org <mailto:coeteam at linuxnus.org>) on most of our emails w/ Ho Fucai of
> >> NUS-SoC on the subject. Kheng is also going to contact Ho Fucai of
> >> NUS-SoC Computing Club.
> >>
> >> We ARE suffering the crossing and lagging effects of using email as our
> >> only communications channel. For example, Heidir is working on a Google
> >> Docs-based survey of users, but yesterday Ho Fucai said that he wanted
> >> to do this via email from inside NUS-SoC. I saw that message, but I do
> >> not recall if Ho Fucai used "reply all" when he responded to my email.
> >> Perhaps not.
> >>
> >> We need to centralize communications. Otherwise, we are going to
> >> duplicate and waste effort, because someone who really does need to know
> >> is always going to get left off a CC: line.
> >>
> >> Google Docs is one option, but there are limits to what those using an
> >> email account other than gmail can access. Perhaps one of the first
> >> projects for the new TUSG site can be a project management module and
> >> mailing list?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> CDR
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> > Hi David,
> >
> > If I could recall, the survey form can be accessed by anyone. They
> > don't need to have gmail account or register with Google to fill up
> > the form, unless they are collaborators.
> >
> > We don't want everyone to have access to private information.
> >
> > Are you proposing that our website have some kind of a document
> > management system something like Google Docs? Why not we leverage on
> > current cloud computing technology instead of building it onto our
> > website?
> >
> > My proposal:
> >
> > For Edittable Documents: Google Docs
> > For PDFs: Team Wiki
> > For Images: Google Picasa
> >
> > IDEAS?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Muhammad Heidir
> > yahoo: dave33bravo | multiply:doksg
> >
> > Please avoid forwarding emails which contains little informational value.
> >
> I suppose that there are two issues here.
> 1) Email as our only communication channel.
> 2) Documents (both work-in-progress type and final copy) are all over
> the web
> 
> Last time I checked, Google Docs does not support email notification of
> updates to the documents. So by moving to Google Docs might mean a
> longer lag time.
> 
> IMO, there is no technical solution to the
> i-click-reply-instead-of-reply-all issue. What we need is to remember to
> hit the reply-all button.
> 
> I propose linking this mailing list to the forum at new.ubuntu.sg.
> Durpal has a module "that aims at inserting mailing list discussions in
> Drupal forums and vice versa". It can be downloaded from [1] and the
> instruction for setting this up is at [2]. If needed, I can help to set
> it up.
> 
> This method is aimed at providing us with a centralise mode of
> communication. By linking all mailing list messages to the forum, we can
> get all the context we need there. The mailing list has the possibility
> to get too long for effective communication. The forum, on the other
> hand, is a better visual tool as it provides a better context. Moreover,
> it is common to see forum threads that is more than 30 pages long, while
> most email thread is shorter than that.
> 
> Furthermore, this allows us to widen our reach. Email, in this case,
> will just be a mode of updating the forum. Users can also choose to
> participate in the discussion directly via the forum. This is beneficial
> to those that does not subscribe to the list.
> 
> 
> For issue (2), I am in the favour of setting up a version control
> system(vcs) such as git or bzr on the site or on launchpad. All
> work-in-progress-files will be committed via the vcs. Again, this will
> provide a centralise platform for the team to work on the documents. One
> advantage of vcs, is that it forces you to provide a changelog, which
> might be omitted if the document is changed elsewhere. Vcs, in the case
> of git, can be configured to allow only certain users to sensitive
> documents. However, I do recognise that we might need to use other
> plaform to get our data. One example is the use of Google Spreedsheet to
> get our user registration.
> 
> 
> [1] http://drupal.org/project/listhandler
> [2] http://drupal.org/node/40777
> 
> --
> Cheers
> Rui Boon
> 