[Ubuntu Chicago] Ubuntu-us-chicago Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10
Eddie Martinez
eddiemartinez at gmail.com
Sun Feb 4 13:56:30 GMT 2007
I really liked your decription about the Linux kid about to crap on your world.
On 2/4/07, ubuntu-us-chicago-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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> 1. Re: e-ntroduction (Patrick Green)
> 2. Re: e-ntroduction (RJ Marsan)
> 3. Re: e-ntroduction (Max Luebbe)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:19:37 -0600
> From: "Patrick Green" <patlgreen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu Chicago] e-ntroduction
> To: csutton at chadarius.com
> Cc: ubuntu-us-chicago at lists.ubuntu.com
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> You basically have 15 to 20 minutes to say what you wanna say. You do not
> wanna give them all...you wanna give them enough to want to know more.
>
> You say it is an OS, you have to explain what an OS, you say it is free and
> open, you have to explain what that means. Look at the Mac ads...in under a
> minute they say Mac does not have viruses, it is secure, it communicates
> instantly with peripherals. If you watch the mac ads...you insert the words
> linux and everything fits. They do not explain the license, the kernel, the
> price.
>
> I would touch on the open source part, though. You have to. IMHO, if Mac
> is the cool kid, PC is the rich kid...Linux is likely the rebel. The
> brooding James Dean who struggles to identify with his parents (Unix and
> Stallman), picked on by the cool kids (Mac), and crapped on by authority
> figures (MS). That brooding kid with the red jacket and cigarette is about
> to rock your world. ;)
>
>
> On 2/3/07, Chad Sutton <chadarius at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Patrick Green wrote:
> >
> > Well, on a lark I called an old friend of mine.
> >
> > He lives in the same town I do and he owns a production company. He
> > writes, films, casts, and directs commercials and high end promotional DVD's
> > (for time shares, real estate for the rich and famous.) A 15 minute
> > promotional film is usually in the neighborhood of 15-30 grand. He is
> > willing to do one for Ubuntu Chicago with his writing, editing, and actors
> > at no charge.
> >
> > I will be sitting down with him soon to give him some info on what linux
> > is, what open source is, and what makes Ubuntu special.
> >
> > What this would give us is a movie we could have streaming on the wiki and
> > even burn onto a DVD quality disk suited for you tv at home.
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Patrick Green <patlgreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I prefer benevolent monarchies as well. ;) Thanks for letting me know
> > > who da bass is RJ. Yeah, this winter has been cold the last few days.
> > > Wherever we go needs to have hot chocolate...or whiskey.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I'll second Rich's WOW! I'll be happy to help out in anyway I can. I
> > think its key to express what the freedom in open source means in comparison
> > to what Vista is ...hrm... brining to the table. But I'm not sure that
> > should be the main message. We need to show that it can be easy to use and
> > useful for people in just about any situation.
> >
> > Recently, One of the youth at my church needed to write a paper for a high
> > school class. He had just built a brand new PC from parts that I helped
> > advise him on. Unfortunately, it wasn't a Linux based PC. However, he had
> > been listening to my talks about open source and he knew about OpenOffice.
> > He installed OpenOffice that weekend and wrote his paper without any
> > problems.
> >
> > I've also seen some major help come to people through the live CD's and
> > getting their data off of there blownup/virus/ladden/can't-boot-up-anymore
> > XP machines.
> >
> > We could produce hours of content about situations in which Ubuntu can
> > help people out in a pinch and provide all of their day to day computing
> > needs. Perhaps the promo would help get our creative juices flowing. We
> > could be doing all kinds of great stuff like this.
> >
> > It would be cool to see if we could create a DVD that had the promotional
> > video on it that could be played in a DVD and could also be used to install
> > Ubuntu once they have seen the Video and want to get started right away.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Later,
> > Chad Sutton
> > csutton at chadarius.com
> > http://chadarius.com
> > http://stephandchadsutton.com
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:19:18 -0600
> From: "RJ Marsan" <rjmarsan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu Chicago] e-ntroduction
> To: "Patrick Green" <patlgreen at gmail.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-us-chicago at lists.ubuntu.com
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> so basically our strong points are Free (as in price), Virus/Spyware
> Protection, and.... oh screw it someone make a wiki page on this.
>
> On 2/3/07, Patrick Green <patlgreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You basically have 15 to 20 minutes to say what you wanna say. You do not
> > wanna give them all...you wanna give them enough to want to know more.
> >
> > You say it is an OS, you have to explain what an OS, you say it is free
> > and open, you have to explain what that means. Look at the Mac ads...in
> > under a minute they say Mac does not have viruses, it is secure, it
> > communicates instantly with peripherals. If you watch the mac ads...you
> > insert the words linux and everything fits. They do not explain the
> > license, the kernel, the price.
> >
> > I would touch on the open source part, though. You have to. IMHO, if Mac
> > is the cool kid, PC is the rich kid...Linux is likely the rebel. The
> > brooding James Dean who struggles to identify with his parents (Unix and
> > Stallman), picked on by the cool kids (Mac), and crapped on by authority
> > figures (MS). That brooding kid with the red jacket and cigarette is about
> > to rock your world. ;)
> >
> >
> > On 2/3/07, Chad Sutton <chadarius at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Patrick Green wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, on a lark I called an old friend of mine.
> > >
> > > He lives in the same town I do and he owns a production company. He
> > > writes, films, casts, and directs commercials and high end promotional DVD's
> > > (for time shares, real estate for the rich and famous.) A 15 minute
> > > promotional film is usually in the neighborhood of 15-30 grand. He is
> > > willing to do one for Ubuntu Chicago with his writing, editing, and actors
> > > at no charge.
> > >
> > > I will be sitting down with him soon to give him some info on what linux
> > > is, what open source is, and what makes Ubuntu special.
> > >
> > > What this would give us is a movie we could have streaming on the wiki
> > > and even burn onto a DVD quality disk suited for you tv at home.
> > >
> > > On 2/1/07, Patrick Green <patlgreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I prefer benevolent monarchies as well. ;) Thanks for letting me
> > > > know who da bass is RJ. Yeah, this winter has been cold the last few days.
> > > > Wherever we go needs to have hot chocolate...or whiskey.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'll second Rich's WOW! I'll be happy to help out in anyway I can. I
> > > think its key to express what the freedom in open source means in comparison
> > > to what Vista is ...hrm... brining to the table. But I'm not sure that
> > > should be the main message. We need to show that it can be easy to use and
> > > useful for people in just about any situation.
> > >
> > > Recently, One of the youth at my church needed to write a paper for a
> > > high school class. He had just built a brand new PC from parts that I helped
> > > advise him on. Unfortunately, it wasn't a Linux based PC. However, he had
> > > been listening to my talks about open source and he knew about OpenOffice.
> > > He installed OpenOffice that weekend and wrote his paper without any
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > I've also seen some major help come to people through the live CD's and
> > > getting their data off of there blownup/virus/ladden/can't-boot-up-anymore
> > > XP machines.
> > >
> > > We could produce hours of content about situations in which Ubuntu can
> > > help people out in a pinch and provide all of their day to day computing
> > > needs. Perhaps the promo would help get our creative juices flowing. We
> > > could be doing all kinds of great stuff like this.
> > >
> > > It would be cool to see if we could create a DVD that had the
> > > promotional video on it that could be played in a DVD and could also be used
> > > to install Ubuntu once they have seen the Video and want to get started
> > > right away.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Later,
> > > Chad Sutton
> > > csutton at chadarius.com
> > >
> > > http://chadarius.com
> > > http://stephandchadsutton.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Ubuntu-us-chicago mailing list
> > Ubuntu-us-chicago at lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-chicago
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:47:31 -0600
> From: Max Luebbe <max.luebbe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu Chicago] e-ntroduction
> To: Patrick Green <patlgreen at gmail.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-us-chicago at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Just a thought.
> Aren't we working against our own intentions though if we have to farm
> out the production work to a windows machine running premiere or mac box
> running final cut?
>
> I'd be nice to make a documentary about linux using linux to edit and
> put the piece together, in the spirit of bug #1.
>
> Also. I used to work for a cable station. Let me know if you need help
> shooting or with post production, I'm pretty solid at both.
>
> -Max
>
>
> Patrick Green wrote:
> > Well, I showed him Revolution OS and he winced and said it was a good
> > student documentary. I've seen his work and have worked with him.
> > Not in film, but in theater. He and I and a guy in Woodstock are old
> > theater hacks. Basically, his gig is he will get a chance to showcase
> > some young talent and give them something to put on a resume and he'll
> > have his production name in the credits...so free pub. He helps alot
> > of young talent find work. He coaches for free, helps them with head
> > shots, and will help them get auditions for commercials and stage
> > productions. He's got a good heart.
> >
> > As far as the Chicago group. Yes, you guys are the foundation and
> > need to be featured. He usually does narrative voice overs, but I
> > suspect he would use one or two actors as hosts or users needing to be
> > guided in the way of Linux.
> >
> > I will be honest, I am relatively new to Ubuntu, though I've been
> > using Linux exclusively since 2002. (more to come on that later).
> > Where we could use help in this project. I think some of you could be
> > proof readers of the script and ensure it is reflecting the proper
> > spirit of Ubuntu and that it is accurate. He prefers to shoot on site
> > and he is used to paying for those sites, so we may have to get after
> > hours access to offices with cubicles and stuff like that. We would
> > also need people who are not camera shy.
> >
> > One thing he envisions is a green screen where a narrator...an
> > attractive woman is standing in the desktop much like a weather person
> > giving a desktop tour.
> >
> > Heck, if anyone here wants to meet with him and I over wings and beers
> > and feed him information, that would be cool.
> >
> > I had to leverage favors to get this done. He does this for me and I
> > get him some free assistance.
> >
> > Heck, we could start a new thread on brainstorming ideas and I could
> > pass it on to him. Professional production quality is important.
> > Soundtrack..even for a 15-20 minute piece is important to set the
> > tone. But really...we want it to be consumer oriented...something
> > that would make the non Linux user think...hmmm...I want that.
> > So...what would be important to include? What is important about
> > Ubuntu and what is important about Ubuntu Chicago?
> >
> > BTW, I am the new kid here, so anyone who wants to contact me to
> > ensure I am on the up and up and blah blah blah, feel free to write me
> > off the mail list and I will give you my contact info.
> >
> > Craig (the production guy) and I are involved in a stage play right
> > now and will be committed until early April so we could get into
> > earnest then. Basically it works this way.
> >
> > Draw script...film for a day or two or three. Edit..re edit...edit
> > again...re edit the re edit....kill small farm animals...edit. ;)
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/2/07, * RJ Marsan* <rjmarsan at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rjmarsan at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > woot. seriously thats awesome.
> >
> > On 2/2/07, *Rich Johnson* < nixternal at ubuntu.com
> > <mailto:nixternal at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On Friday 02 February 2007, Patrick Green wrote:
> > | Well, on a lark I called an old friend of mine.
> > |
> > | He lives in the same town I do and he owns a production
> > company. He
> > | writes, films, casts, and directs commercials and high end
> > promotional
> > | DVD's (for time shares, real estate for the rich and
> > famous.) A 15 minute
> > | promotional film is usually in the neighborhood of 15-30
> > grand. He is
> > | willing to do one for Ubuntu Chicago with his writing,
> > editing, and actors
> > | at no charge.
> > |
> > | I will be sitting down with him soon to give him some info
> > on what linux
> > | is, what open source is, and what makes Ubuntu special.
> > |
> > | What this would give us is a movie we could have streaming
> > on the wiki and
> > | even burn onto a DVD quality disk suited for you tv at home.
> >
> > OK, I caught my breath after reading this. This is amazing and
> > we (Ubuntu)
> > would be so greatfull for such an opportunity.
> >
> > I am available to help out as much as needed. I have no
> > problem using his own
> > actors, but would be interested to know if possible some of
> > the "real" Ubuntu
> > users (some of the Chicago members) had a cameo appearance?
> >
> > I can promise him that I will get his name out to about 8
> > million people with
> > 1 single post. Those are the 8 million users who read my blog,
> > the Fridge,
> > and other sites as well. Plus this will also target those who
> > aren't using
> > Ubuntu YET. This will get a Digg I am sure, and I can
> > guarantee a news spot
> > on Google as well. If you have more information about your
> > friend and if he
> > is interested, I would love to promote him and his work. I
> > would like to see
> > some of his previous work, which I am sure is good.
> >
> > Patrick, we (Ubuntu community) really appreciate your recent
> > activity,
> > interest, and knowledge. I am an Executive Marketing and
> > Business Management
> > major myself and enjoy this part of "work" more than any
> > other. It seems you
> > have the field experience that I am interested in and if ever
> > the chance came
> > about, I would love to pick your brain apart. Of course I will
> > format the
> > Windows partition up there if there is one :)
> >
> > Thanks again Patrick and if there is anything you need, please
> > do not hesitate
> > to email me or the group.
> >
> > --
> > Rich Johnson
> > nixternal at ubuntu.com <mailto:nixternal at ubuntu.com>
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> >
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