[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea
Darrin Goodman
darrin.goodman at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 22:50:55 BST 2007
Not to be difficult, but I agree with Alex. The CoLoCo site makes
sense to a Ubuntu enthusiast, but to the person who is trying to
decide whether or not they want to even test the waters of Linux and
move away from the Windows environment that they are so familiar with,
it may be confusing. The site should be very simple, easy to
understand, and should define how/why they will benefit from using
Linux and then describe why Ubuntu is so great. Also, it should have
a simple guide to how to get started, as well as a list of resources
for support. Information about install-fests could be available to
them in case they need some hand-holding.
Also, coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org might be difficult for the average
novice to remember if they see it out in public on a shirt. These
were all reasons why we were thinking that a separate website might be
the way to go.
- Darrin
On 10/11/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> If by "our coloco address" you mean http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/, I would
> disagree, unless we're going to paste a giant green button on it that says
> "if you are here for free support click here" right in the middle of the
> top. http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ is a community site for our group,
> while this proposed site, if I am understanding the idea, would be more of a
> marketing site, to market the idea of switching to ubunu, promote the
> feasibility of the idea to people. This is a different goal than
> http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ has, which is more about connecting a
> network of geeks. It seems to me that the site referred to on the shirt
> should definitely link to our group site (ie: sponsered by ubuntu colorado
> team, click here: http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/), but it has a distinctly
> different purpose. Joe Schmoe wouldn't know what to do next at
> http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ . The proposed site would need to be, in my
> mind at least, insanely easy to understand for the common user with a
> clearly targeted goal of converting computer users into ubuntu users.
>
> Just my $0.02
> Alex
>
>
>
> On 10/11/07, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:50:32PM -0600, Alex Comer wrote:
> > > I second Jim's nomination to be the lead who intends to do all the
> organization
> > > for this tech support group within the LoCo.
> >
> > Thanks! I do suggest that liability needs to be addressed and may be
> > sticky. See if there are good disclaimer statements from installfest
> > organizers....
> >
> > > Futhermore, I vote for the formation of a small web group within our
> ubuntu
> > > group to tackle the web end of this problem, since it sounds like a few
> folks
> > > have an interest. So far, I'm hearing that currently Darrin, myself,
> Phillip?
> > > others?
> > >
> > > My company leases a dedicated Linux server which runs a handful of web
> sites.
> > > I'll be happy to donate the hosting and domain registration if need be.
> This
> > > sounds like an interesting project to me, I say we roll with it while we
> have
> > > momentum! Can we get consensus on a domain name?
> >
> > If we're really doing tshirts I think we should stick with a site that
> > will be around a long time, maybe with a catchphrase about colorado
> > ubuntu support. Using our coloco address sounds much more widely
> > usable and beneficial to me, and if we don't like it we can change it.
> >
> > -Neal
> >
> > > Alex Comer
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > A while back, I upgraded my GoDaddy account. I'll have to double
> > > check for certain, but I believe the upgrade includes hosting for an
> > > unlimited number of domains. I believe that the server that my
> > > account is associated with is running Fedora.
> > >
> > > If someone has a personal server that they want to host on, that's
> > > great too. Otherwise, I'll look further into setting up hosting for
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Also, I would be interested in helping out with the web
> > > implementation. Drupal sounds good as I believe that it would allow
> > > for editing by authenticated users. I've been wanting to implement
> > > something like Drupal, phpBB, or SimpleMachines (I know, these don't
> > > all serve the same purpose) for a while now, so it would be fun to
> be
> > > in on the implementation.
> > >
> > > I also have some ideas for the shirt design and would love to join
> > > forces with anyone who is interested on that as well. I'm in the
> > > process of trying to locate the screen printing shop here in FC to
> see
> > > what their prices are. The shirts that they are using are really
> nice
> > > and are high quality.
> > >
> > > - Darrin
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/11/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > Let me offer my support. If we are serious about this endeavor, I
> offer
> > > to
> > > > install/configure/maintain a drupal CMS. I can also register a
> domain and
> > > > host if need be, although my server is *gasp* red hat :) (I'm
> looking at
> > > > migrating to ubuntu server though :)
> > > >
> > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > > The other tech support idea is still in the works. It should
> happen
> > > > > eventually. This idea is more of a "I'm a computer geek and will
> help
> > > > > you for free if you want to dump MS and go to Ubuntu" kind of
> idea. I
> > > > > don't really envision it being a team thing other than that we
> support
> > > > > the idea and will put up a single point of contact on the web
> for shy
> > > > > people to visit. Maybe we put our email address too and the area
> we
> > > > > are in so people who are interested can contact us. If they
> don't ask
> > > > > you when they see you they will need some way to contact
> someone.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe this should be a discussion at the next meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg <dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've
> talked
> > > about
> > > > doing
> > > > > > this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing
> ever
> > > > > > materialized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo,
> > > complete
> > > > with
> > > > > > a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group.
> We need
> > > to
> > > > > > find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this
> project. I
> > > > think
> > > > > > until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get
> done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > > I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url. Anyone else have
> > > > > > > suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be
> placed
> > > on
> > > > > > > the shirt? If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind
> pursuing it
> > > and
> > > > > > > putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make
> my
> > > > > > > living...). It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site
> to the
> > > > > > > CoLoCo site possibly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at?
> Am I
> > > > > > > heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in
> a
> > > > > > > separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo? I would love
> to hear
> > > > > > > feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of
> died
> > > once
> > > > > > > I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall
> their name
> > > at
> > > > > > > the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton
> > > shirts.
> > > > > > > After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in
> > > September,
> > > > > > > I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable. I have
> been
> > > > > > > thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu
> shirts;
> > > donating
> > > > > > > the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to
> the folks
> > > > > > > who have done so much for those of us who very much
> appreciate both
> > > > > > > Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project. I like
> the
> > > idea
> > > > > > > of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing
> freedom",
> > > and
> > > > > > > it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more
> > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Darrin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd < coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Good idea. I checked register.com and the following
> domains are
> > > > > > available:
> > > > > > > > freeyourcomputer.net
> > > > > > > > freeyourcomputer.org
> > > > > > > > freeyourcomputer.info
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brandan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for
> > > advertising!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > However, it has been my experience that people who are
> new to
> > > > > > > > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live
> person;
> > > it
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about
> > > computers.
> > > > > > > > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising
> mechanism,
> > > but
> > > > > > > > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a
> simple
> > > and
> > > > > > > > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt. That way,
> when
> > > someone
> > > > sees
> > > > > > > > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully
> go to
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > website. Plus, you might not always have a flier on
> hand and
> > > it
> > > > would
> > > > > > > > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Function of the website:
> > > > > > > > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to
> open
> > > source
> > > > /
> > > > > > > > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > > > > > > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > > > > > > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources,
> such as
> > > > > > UbuntuScreencasts
> > > > > > > > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > > > > > > > - allows the user to express interest in having an
> install-fest
> > > > take
> > > > > > > > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it
> might be
> > > > worth
> > > > > > > > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote
> parts
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > state)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an
> > > > install-fest.
> > > > > > > > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than
> one
> > > person
> > > > at a
> > > > > > > > > time, that's time better spent. For prospective Linux /
> Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that
> > > > install-fests
> > > > > > > > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the
> word
> > > out...
> > > > The
> > > > > > > > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > > > > > > > Free your computer! Ask me how.
> > > > > > > > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember
> URL]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the
> shirt could
> > > a
> > > > > > > > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of
> > > information
> > > > -- a
> > > > > > > > > simple website where they could find out about *why open
> > > source*,
> > > > *why
> > > > > > > > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*. The
> > > > http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > > > > > > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for
> people
> > > who
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones
> beginner,
> > > I'm
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how"
> questions
> > > (or
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I
> mean no
> > > > > > > > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is already a lot of information out on the web,
> but if we
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this
> might be
> > > a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the
> > > newcomers.
> > > > > > > > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Darrin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt
> project.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and
> wear
> > > it
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some
> brochures
> > > (maybe
> > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing
> to
> > > offer.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to
> Ubuntu on
> > > our
> > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them
> set up
> > > a
> > > > dual
> > > > > > > > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their
> files if
> > > they
> > > > > > can't.
> > > > > > > > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to
> > > approach
> > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and
> make
> > > > clear
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing
> with your
> > > > shirt
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or
> mail
> > > list.
> > > > They
> > > > > > > > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try
> whoever
> > > was
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry
> about. If
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I
> don't
> > > know
> > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not -
> > > > especially if
> > > > > > > > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be
> worthwhile to
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and
> helping at
> > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they
> sign it.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I
> think
> > > most
> > > > > > judges
> > > > > > > > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual
> if you
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > their consent in writing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access
> to a
> > > > lawyer.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash <
> funnylookinhat at gmail.com >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that. go ahead and change
> it. :
> > > )
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > > > > > > >
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and
> > > > noticed
> > > > > > that our
> > > > > > > > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides
> Local
> > > > > > Support" as many
> > > > > > > > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I
> > > > misinterpreting
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > table?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <
> jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt
> Guy
> > > again.
> > > > > > However, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk
> screening and I
> > > > think
> > > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash <
> funnylookinhat at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that.
> Heck,
> > > it'd
> > > > be a
> > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned
> around the
> > > DNC
> > > > next
> > > > > > summer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <
> jim at ubuntu-rocks.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version.
> I'm
> > > only
> > > > > > asking would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be
> something
> > > > worth
> > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by
> > > installing
> > > > > > Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time
> what's
> > > best.
> > > > My
> > > > > > guess is
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest
> edition. LTS
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > overly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us
> are
> > > still
> > > > > > running dapper
> > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of
> us
> > > will
> > > > be on
> > > > > > Gutsy.
> > > > > > > > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would
> members be
> > > to
> > > > walk
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free
> > > computer
> > > > > > help" or
> > > > > > > > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing
> converts from
> > > > time
> > > > > > to time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey <
> crichey at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer <
> alex at platinumcode.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but,
> was
> > > the
> > > > point
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not
> really
> > > > included
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy
> cause its
> > > > better
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie
> seem too
> > > > amateur
> > > > > > and he'd
> > > > > > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds
> since they
> > > are
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit
> too
> > > dated
> > > > for
> > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the
> professional
> > > quality
> > > > > > covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth,
> but I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Collins Richey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you fill your heart with regrets
> of
> > > > yesterday
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