[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea
David L. Willson
DLWillson at TheGeek.NU
Thu Oct 11 23:33:37 BST 2007
The Rule of Three, applied to this problem, might say these three buttons belong on the
front page.
What is Linux?
-> Linux is an Operating System. It does the same thing Windows and MacOS X do. Each
Operating System runs it's own set of applications.
Why would I use Linux?
-> Linux is free* Linux is fun* Linux is cool*
How do I start?
-> Find a user-group* Find an install-fest* Find a buddy*
* expansion or interaction available
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:50:55 -0600, Darrin Goodman wrote
> Not to be difficult, but I agree with Alex. The CoLoCo site makes
> sense to a Ubuntu enthusiast, but to the person who is trying to
> decide whether or not they want to even test the waters of Linux and
> move away from the Windows environment that they are so familiar with,
> it may be confusing. The site should be very simple, easy to
> understand, and should define how/why they will benefit from using
> Linux and then describe why Ubuntu is so great. Also, it should have
> a simple guide to how to get started, as well as a list of resources
> for support. Information about install-fests could be available to
> them in case they need some hand-holding.
>
> Also, coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org might be difficult for the average
> novice to remember if they see it out in public on a shirt. These
> were all reasons why we were thinking that a separate website might be
> the way to go.
>
> - Darrin
>
> On 10/11/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > If by "our coloco address" you mean http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/, I would
> > disagree, unless we're going to paste a giant green button on it that says
> > "if you are here for free support click here" right in the middle of the
> > top. http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ is a community site for our group,
> > while this proposed site, if I am understanding the idea, would be more of a
> > marketing site, to market the idea of switching to ubunu, promote the
> > feasibility of the idea to people. This is a different goal than
> > http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ has, which is more about connecting a
> > network of geeks. It seems to me that the site referred to on the shirt
> > should definitely link to our group site (ie: sponsered by ubuntu colorado
> > team, click here: http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/), but it has a distinctly
> > different purpose. Joe Schmoe wouldn't know what to do next at
> > http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ . The proposed site would need to be, in my
> > mind at least, insanely easy to understand for the common user with a
> > clearly targeted goal of converting computer users into ubuntu users.
> >
> > Just my $0.02
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/07, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:50:32PM -0600, Alex Comer wrote:
> > > > I second Jim's nomination to be the lead who intends to do all the
> > organization
> > > > for this tech support group within the LoCo.
> > >
> > > Thanks! I do suggest that liability needs to be addressed and may be
> > > sticky. See if there are good disclaimer statements from installfest
> > > organizers....
> > >
> > > > Futhermore, I vote for the formation of a small web group within our
> > ubuntu
> > > > group to tackle the web end of this problem, since it sounds like a few
> > folks
> > > > have an interest. So far, I'm hearing that currently Darrin, myself,
> > Phillip?
> > > > others?
> > > >
> > > > My company leases a dedicated Linux server which runs a handful of web
> > sites.
> > > > I'll be happy to donate the hosting and domain registration if need be.
> > This
> > > > sounds like an interesting project to me, I say we roll with it while we
> > have
> > > > momentum! Can we get consensus on a domain name?
> > >
> > > If we're really doing tshirts I think we should stick with a site that
> > > will be around a long time, maybe with a catchphrase about colorado
> > > ubuntu support. Using our coloco address sounds much more widely
> > > usable and beneficial to me, and if we don't like it we can change it.
> > >
> > > -Neal
> > >
> > > > Alex Comer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A while back, I upgraded my GoDaddy account. I'll have to double
> > > > check for certain, but I believe the upgrade includes hosting for an
> > > > unlimited number of domains. I believe that the server that my
> > > > account is associated with is running Fedora.
> > > >
> > > > If someone has a personal server that they want to host on, that's
> > > > great too. Otherwise, I'll look further into setting up hosting for
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I would be interested in helping out with the web
> > > > implementation. Drupal sounds good as I believe that it would allow
> > > > for editing by authenticated users. I've been wanting to implement
> > > > something like Drupal, phpBB, or SimpleMachines (I know, these don't
> > > > all serve the same purpose) for a while now, so it would be fun to
> > be
> > > > in on the implementation.
> > > >
> > > > I also have some ideas for the shirt design and would love to join
> > > > forces with anyone who is interested on that as well. I'm in the
> > > > process of trying to locate the screen printing shop here in FC to
> > see
> > > > what their prices are. The shirts that they are using are really
> > nice
> > > > and are high quality.
> > > >
> > > > - Darrin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > Let me offer my support. If we are serious about this endeavor, I
> > offer
> > > > to
> > > > > install/configure/maintain a drupal CMS. I can also register a
> > domain and
> > > > > host if need be, although my server is *gasp* red hat :) (I'm
> > looking at
> > > > > migrating to ubuntu server though :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/11/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > > > The other tech support idea is still in the works. It should
> > happen
> > > > > > eventually. This idea is more of a "I'm a computer geek and will
> > help
> > > > > > you for free if you want to dump MS and go to Ubuntu" kind of
> > idea. I
> > > > > > don't really envision it being a team thing other than that we
> > support
> > > > > > the idea and will put up a single point of contact on the web
> > for shy
> > > > > > people to visit. Maybe we put our email address too and the area
> > we
> > > > > > are in so people who are interested can contact us. If they
> > don't ask
> > > > > > you when they see you they will need some way to contact
> > someone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe this should be a discussion at the next meeting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg <dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've
> > talked
> > > > about
> > > > > doing
> > > > > > > this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing
> > ever
> > > > > > > materialized.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo,
> > > > complete
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group.
> > We need
> > > > to
> > > > > > > find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this
> > project. I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get
> > done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dave.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url. Anyone else have
> > > > > > > > suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be
> > placed
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > the shirt? If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind
> > pursuing it
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make
> > my
> > > > > > > > living...). It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site
> > to the
> > > > > > > > CoLoCo site possibly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at?
> > Am I
> > > > > > > > heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in
> > a
> > > > > > > > separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo? I would love
> > to hear
> > > > > > > > feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of
> > died
> > > > once
> > > > > > > > I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall
> > their name
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton
> > > > shirts.
> > > > > > > > After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in
> > > > September,
> > > > > > > > I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable. I have
> > been
> > > > > > > > thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu
> > shirts;
> > > > donating
> > > > > > > > the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to
> > the folks
> > > > > > > > who have done so much for those of us who very much
> > appreciate both
> > > > > > > > Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project. I like
> > the
> > > > idea
> > > > > > > > of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing
> > freedom",
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more
> > > > information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Darrin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd < coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Good idea. I checked register.com and the following
> > domains are
> > > > > > > available:
> > > > > > > > > freeyourcomputer.net
> > > > > > > > > freeyourcomputer.org
> > > > > > > > > freeyourcomputer.info
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brandan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for
> > > > advertising!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > However, it has been my experience that people who are
> > new to
> > > > > > > > > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live
> > person;
> > > > it
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about
> > > > computers.
> > > > > > > > > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising
> > mechanism,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a
> > simple
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt. That way,
> > when
> > > > someone
> > > > > sees
> > > > > > > > > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully
> > go to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > website. Plus, you might not always have a flier on
> > hand and
> > > > it
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Function of the website:
> > > > > > > > > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to
> > open
> > > > source
> > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > > > > > > > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > > > > > > > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources,
> > such as
> > > > > > > UbuntuScreencasts
> > > > > > > > > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > > > > > > > > - allows the user to express interest in having an
> > install-fest
> > > > > take
> > > > > > > > > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it
> > might be
> > > > > worth
> > > > > > > > > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote
> > parts
> > > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > state)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an
> > > > > install-fest.
> > > > > > > > > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than
> > one
> > > > person
> > > > > at a
> > > > > > > > > > time, that's time better spent. For prospective Linux /
> > Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that
> > > > > install-fests
> > > > > > > > > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the
> > word
> > > > out...
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > > > > > > > > Free your computer! Ask me how.
> > > > > > > > > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember
> > URL]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the
> > shirt could
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of
> > > > information
> > > > > -- a
> > > > > > > > > > simple website where they could find out about *why open
> > > > source*,
> > > > > *why
> > > > > > > > > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*. The
> > > > > http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > > > > > > > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for
> > people
> > > > who
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones
> > beginner,
> > > > I'm
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how"
> > questions
> > > > (or
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I
> > mean no
> > > > > > > > > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There is already a lot of information out on the web,
> > but if we
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this
> > might be
> > > > a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the
> > > > newcomers.
> > > > > > > > > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Darrin
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt
> > project.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and
> > wear
> > > > it
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some
> > brochures
> > > > (maybe
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing
> > to
> > > > offer.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to
> > Ubuntu on
> > > > our
> > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them
> > set up
> > > > a
> > > > > dual
> > > > > > > > > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their
> > files if
> > > > they
> > > > > > > can't.
> > > > > > > > > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to
> > > > approach
> > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and
> > make
> > > > > clear
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing
> > with your
> > > > > shirt
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or
> > mail
> > > > list.
> > > > > They
> > > > > > > > > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try
> > whoever
> > > > was
> > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry
> > about. If
> > > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > > > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I
> > don't
> > > > know
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not -
> > > > > especially if
> > > > > > > > > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be
> > worthwhile to
> > > > have
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and
> > helping at
> > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they
> > sign it.
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I
> > think
> > > > most
> > > > > > > judges
> > > > > > > > > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual
> > if you
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > their consent in writing.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access
> > to a
> > > > > lawyer.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash <
> > funnylookinhat at gmail.com >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that. go ahead and change
> > it. :
> > > > )
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and
> > > > > noticed
> > > > > > > that our
> > > > > > > > > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides
> > Local
> > > > > > > Support" as many
> > > > > > > > > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I
> > > > > misinterpreting
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > table?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <
> > jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt
> > Guy
> > > > again.
> > > > > > > However, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk
> > screening and I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash <
> > funnylookinhat at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that.
> > Heck,
> > > > it'd
> > > > > be a
> > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned
> > around the
> > > > DNC
> > > > > next
> > > > > > > summer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <
> > jim at ubuntu-rocks.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version.
> > I'm
> > > > only
> > > > > > > asking would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be
> > something
> > > > > worth
> > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by
> > > > installing
> > > > > > > Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time
> > what's
> > > > best.
> > > > > My
> > > > > > > guess is
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest
> > edition. LTS
> > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > overly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us
> > are
> > > > still
> > > > > > > running dapper
> > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of
> > us
> > > > will
> > > > > be on
> > > > > > > Gutsy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would
> > members be
> > > > to
> > > > > walk
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free
> > > > computer
> > > > > > > help" or
> > > > > > > > > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing
> > converts from
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > to time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey <
> > crichey at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer <
> > alex at platinumcode.com
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but,
> > was
> > > > the
> > > > > point
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not
> > really
> > > > > included
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy
> > cause its
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie
> > seem too
> > > > > amateur
> > > > > > > and he'd
> > > > > > > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds
> > since they
> > > > are
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit
> > too
> > > > dated
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the
> > professional
> > > > quality
> > > > > > > covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth,
> > but I
> > > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Collins Richey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you fill your heart with regrets
> > of
> > > > > yesterday
> > > > > > > and the
> > > > > > > > > > > > worries
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of tomorrow, you have no today to
> > be
> > > > thankful
> > > > > > > for.
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