[CoLoCo] GNOME without Evolution?!

[Andrew]

I have since tried Linux Mint an Ubuntu derivative. I have to say it's quite
nice and does not have the Evolution dependency. And although i dont really
care for the linux mint logo or slogan, i am pleased so far with almost
everthing else. I like to customize a lot. So, already my system looks much
different from the base Mint install. I've changed my panels almost back to
how a default Ubuntu Gnome environment looks, since i didnt really like
Linux Mint's attempt to make the panel menu resemble Windows.

I am a bit sad that it had to come to this though. But, at least it's it's
still the same Ubuntu i love under the hood.

-Andrew

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Kevin Fries <kfries at cctus.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> I don't think that switch exists in APT... I t does exists in RPM
> (--no-deps), but I do not believe that it exists in APT.  If it does, I
> would love somebody to tell me, cuz, I have several uses for it.
>
> Also, one other danger...
>
> Lets say the switch does exist, and I am just not aware of it.  Lets also
> say that the OP finds that switch.  Lets also say they use it.  What happens
> when the package upgrades with the same dependency still in place?
>
> My guess is that Evolution will then get re-installed undoing what you just
> did.  In my opinion, most modern Linux system are begining to suffer from a
> overly agressive dependency situation that is driving it down the road
> Microsoft has already shown to be a bad idea.
>
>
>
> Kevin Fries
> Senior Linux Engineer
> Computer and Communications Technology, Inc
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> ubuntu-us-co-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of David L. Willson
> [DLWillson at TheGeek.NU]
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: Ubuntu Colorado Local Community Team
> Subject: Re: [CoLoCo] GNOME without Evolution?!
>
> I think that will just tell you that the GNOME package depends on
> Evolution.  But there should be an apt-get switch to ignore Evolution's
> dependent package.  Find that switch, try it, and if something breaks, that
> you care about, you can always put Evolution back later.  Maybe by using
> another apt-get switch to allow re-installation of the already-installed
> GNOME package to "heal" it, in this case by re-installing Evolution.
>
> I realize that's all very generic...  the switches are there, I just don't
> know what they are off the top of my head.
>
> David L. Willson
> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> MCT, MCSE, Linux+
> tel://720.333.LANS
>
> ----- "Andrew" <keen101 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did find this recommendation while searching:
> >
> >
> >
> > Code: sudo apt-get remove --purge evolution and then running
> >
> > Code: apt-get autoremove But, will that work?
> >
> > I've also heard that Linux Mint does not include Evolution, and
> > includes Thunderbird instead. But, i also read somewhere that Mint
> > still has a lot of Evolution left-over packages.
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 10:06 AM, David L. Willson <
> > DLWillson at thegeek.nu > wrote:
> >
> >
> > 'Figures I'd be testing kubuntu... Isn't there a way to purge
> > Evolution without removing depending packages? I'd swear there is.
> >
> > David L. Willson
> > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> > MCT, MCSE, Linux+
> > tel://720.333.LANS
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Andrew < keen101 at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > Argh. This has bugged me for quite some time.
> > >
> > > I want to know if anyone on this list knows of a way to a have a
> > fully
> > > functioning and working GNOME environment without having to rely on
> > a stupid
> > > metapackage that seems to require Evolution and a few other useless
> > > dependencies.
> > >
> > > I dont mind that Evolution comes preinstalled with Gnome, but come
> > on.. the
> > > fact that it's hard coded into a metapackage is ridiculous. I've
> > tried just
> > > not using it for a long time, but occasionally i accidentally click
> > on
> > > something and it will startup which i find rather annoying. It's
> > really
> > > bugging me now.
> > >
> > > I think i can install Gnome without the metapackage, but does anyone
> > know
> > > which packages are needed or if that approach will even work too. I
> > dont
> > > want to try to install something that has the metapackage as a
> > dependency.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > -Andrew
> >
> >
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