distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN

[Antony Gelberg]

Daniel Carrera wrote:
> Antony Gelberg wrote:
> 
>>> While I agree with the literal meaning of what you wrote, I feel 
>>> compelled to mention that many experts are likely to enjoy using 
>>> Ubuntu. Ubuntu does not limit the power available to an expert.
>>
>>
>> It does at a desktop level.  If I want an Ubuntu desktop without, say, 
>> Firefox or Openoffice.org, or any one of many packages that I don't 
>> want, I can't have it without removing the ubuntu-desktop package, 
>> which may break upgrades between releases.
> 
> 
> This is not true. I /have/ removed Firefox and OpenOffice.org both and I 
> didn't have to remove ubuntu-desktop and I didn't have problems 
> upgrading from Warty to Hoary or from Hoary to Breezy. I've done this on 
> my two computers (3 upgrades in total). I also did this twice on the 
> Ubuntu OEM installation and it didn't remove ubuntu-desktop.
> 
> Best,
> Daniel.

Both firefox and OO.o are dependencies of ubuntu-desktop. 
http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/ubuntu-desktop

Perhaps ubuntu-desktop was removed and you didn't notice?