Accessing Usenet News Groups

[Basil Chupin]

On 22/07/12 12:47, AV3 wrote:
> On Jul/21/2012 3:5859 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:41:51AM -0400, AV3 wrote:
>>
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  ........snip........
>>>
>>>
>>> In a well-moderated newsgroup a moderator maintains minimally polite
>>> relevance. Recently in one such newsgroup, an arrogant teenager
>>> making snide comments and announcing himself a member of the
>>> development group was publicly reproached and probably privately
>>> told to restrict his comments and claims, because his subsequent
>>> contributions were fewer and quite modest. Hopefully, moderation
>>> will make him a better adult.
>>>
>>>
>>> Often a moderator will announce the closing of a thread that has
>>> become irrelevant to the group description by off-topic or impolite
>>> discussion. The moderator(s) performs a difficult and time-consuming
>>> task out of loyalty to the group and topic.
>>
>> What you're referring to are mailing lists, not newsgroups. You're
>> reading the lists on gmane using T'bird in NNTP mode. The tip off should
>> be the address you sent your post to: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com.
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 
>> ^^^^^
>
>
> Pardon my ignorance. I thought message groups exchanged messages by 
> e-mail. To access those messages I subscribe to message groups run by 
> organizations and interest groups I belong to. I was a moderator for 
> one such Yahoogroup. Various groups send me contributions to the group 
> or summaries, as I request.
>
>
> The full name for my access to gmane is news.gmane.org, and I access 
> it through T-bird newsgroups. Its messages are only to be read by news 
> applications like T-bird and MT-Newswatcher on my Mac. That is true 
> for a number of nntp and news lists I subscribe to. There is an iPad 
> application, too, but I am only experimenting with using it. I think 
> there is a gmane-message-group, but I have had no occasion to visit 
> gmane's web page, if there is one.
>
>
> Both species of messages can be accessed by browser on-line in 
> archives. I believe that is an alternative way of participating, 
> certainly for Yahoogroups. Browser reading and posting merges the two 
> species.
>
>
>>
>> BTW, I well remember the obnoxious adolescent you mentioned. Don't
>> remember what list he polluted but he was roasted in short order. His
>> posts became a lot more acceptable thereafter.
>>
>
>
> I was being coy. This was the list, and it was my way of thanking the 
> hard-working, self-sacrificing moderator(s) concerned.

/quote

Gmane (pronounced "mane") is an e-mail to news gateway. It allows users 
to access electronic mailing lists as if they were Usenet newsgroups, 
and also through a variety of web interfaces. Gmane is an archive; it 
never expires messages (unless explicitly requested by users). Gmane 
also supports importing list postings made prior to a list's inclusion 
on the service.

/unquote

Note the statement that, "... Gmane is an archive."

However, the most interesting part about this, ubuntu users mail list is 
what is found here:

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user

where is shows that ubuntu, unlike any other mail list which I have 
belonged to, allows any Tom, Dick, and Harry to post to the list (this 
list) without having to first subscribe to it - and which, to me at 
least, means that nobody who is accessing this list can be thrown off 
because they don't appear on the subscription list. In order 
words...Moderators: pphhhtttttt! and "up yours!"

Here is the bit which shows this, "Status     posting allowed".

And which is why, AV3, you are posting here thru gmane.

BC

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