nouveau going off the deep end...

[Liam Proven]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 16:29, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:

>
> I just did Alt-SysRq reisub, but no, Ctrl-Alt-*anything* did not work.  Always
> the first thing I try.

Fair enough!

> OK, this is new (to me).  I remember the "old days" of dealing with NVIDIA
> video being a hassle.  *I* don't really need any of the "nifty" features of
> the NVIDIA chipset anyway.  I only have a NVIDIA video because all of the AMD
> motherboards I looked at had NVIDIA, like it or not.  *I* would have prefered
> a *simple* Intel video chipset, but I wanted a (cheaper) AMD processor.

Getting it working is often still a hassle, but once it's in, it's
pretty much fit and forget.

The only exception I've met is when an old GPU model drops out of
support, which nVidia do periodically.  I've had it happen with an
only decade-old GPU.

> Just one panel, plus the under-the-hood stuff (dbus and gvfs daemons).  *I*
> loath the "Start Menu" clonage.  I have no use for file icons all over the
> place -- I have process icons in a FVWM icon box.

Aha, OK, right, if you're still using a panel, fair enough then.

I am no big MATE enthusiast or evangelist. It's all right. I happen to
prefer Xfce, and Unity to Xfce. I was just curious.

> It is much like Gnome2, which I know how to "deal" with.  I have as a
> back-burner project of building my own from the ground up Desktop Manager,
> without all of the crap "modern" Desktop Manager include (which I don't want
> or need).

There are a _lot_ out there. Some may be easier to cut down. EDE, for
instance, or even Enlightenment.

> Yes, I like FVWM -- simple and easy to configure the way I like, and yes a few
> Gnome2/Mate panel accessories. FVWM has a MWM mode, which is what I "learned"
> GUI on. I use my own home-grown "menu manager/session manager" thing, which is
> like the one shipped with DECWindows back when DEC was still alive and making
> VAXStations running VMS with DECWindows (aka X11 with Motif).

Huh. OK, that's kinda cool. I have 3 VAXstations in the basement
waiting for me to try to get 1 working unit out of them, and I wanted
to get VMS with DECwindows (and probably Motif) working. Never did
have my own to play with, just was a sysadmin.

> > FVWM does not use any kind of window compositing functionality, AFAIK.
>
> Yes, and that is a good thing.

:-)

It's one of the things I like about Xfce.

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