[xubuntu-users] Frequent loss of xmodmap settings

Tue Dec 9 14:09:25 UTC 2025

Cody Smith <cody.smith at ubuntu.com> writes:

>Just because packages were pulled in for Wayland on top of X11 doesn't mean
>Wayland is in use at al on XFCEl. Wayland isn't like x Wayland, you can't
>stack Wayland on top of X11, that's a design decision

>C_smith

I understand.  Then someting else on the system is messing with the xmodmap
settings.  There must be some component of the OS, or some app, that is
responsible.  I have not been able to identify any repeatable pattern of
actions taken that is triggering the problem.  So far it just seems to occur
randomly.

Regards,
-- 
Jeff

>On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 6:19=E2=80=AFPM Jeffery Small <jeff at cjsa.com> wrote:

>> Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 17:31, Jeffery Small <jeff at cjsa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> the consensus seems to be that it is Wayland that
>> >> is causing the problem.
>>
>> >I think they are wrong.
>>
>> >Xubuntu does not use Wayland... Because Xfce does not use Wayland.
>>
>> >There is _experimental_ support for labwc with Xfce but I only know of
>> >the latest openSUSE using it so far. It is definitely not in Xubuntu
>> >Noble.
>>
>> >--
>> >Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven ~ LinkedIn/X/FB:
>> lproven
>> >Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ~ Google: lproven at gmail.com
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>>
>> Liam:
>>
>> I understand that Xfce4 doesn't use Wayland, but the following packages
>> have been pulled in by something over time:
>>
>> kwayland-data
>> kwayland-integration
>> libkf5waylandclient5
>> libnvidia-egl-wayland1
>> libqt5waylandclient5
>> libqt5waylandcompositor5
>> libqt6waylandclient6
>> libqt6waylandcompositor6
>> libqt6waylandeglclienthwintegration6
>> libqt6waylandeglcompositorhwintegration6
>> libva-wayland2
>> libwayland-client0
>> libwayland-cursor0
>> libwayland-egl1
>> libwayland-server0
>> qt6-wayland
>> qtwayland5
>> wayland-protocols
>>
>> I'm not saying that Wayland proper is running, but I do wonder if some
>> other program is using Wayland components in some way.  And I'm not even
>> saying that I have any clue that Wayland is involved at all; that's just
>> what other have mentioned when I tried to research this problem.
>>
>> In any case, other people are also experiencing the same thing and if
>> anyone
>> does have any ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Jeffery Small
>>
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><div dir=3D"auto">Just because packages were pulled in for Wayland on top o=
>f X11 doesn't mean Wayland is in use at al on XFCEl. Wayland isn't =
>like x Wayland, you can't stack Wayland on top of X11, that's a des=
>ign decision=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">C_smith</di=
>v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"lt=
>r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 6:19=E2=80=AFPM Jeffery Small =
><<a href=3D"mailto:jeff at cjsa.com">jeff at cjsa.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
>x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Liam Proven <<a href=3D"mailto:lproven at gm=
>ail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">lproven at gmail.com</a>> wri=
>tes:<br>
><br>
>>On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 17:31, Jeffery Small <<a href=3D"mailto:jeff at c=
>jsa.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jeff at cjsa.com</a>> wrote:<=
>br>
><br>
>>> the consensus seems to be that it is Wayland that<br>
>>> is causing the problem.<br>
><br>
>>I think they are wrong.<br>
><br>
>>Xubuntu does not use Wayland... Because Xfce does not use Wayland.<br>
><br>
>>There is _experimental_ support for labwc with Xfce but I only know of<=
>br>
>>the latest openSUSE using it so far. It is definitely not in Xubuntu<br=
>>
>>Noble.<br>
><br>
>>-- <br>
>>Liam Proven ~ Profile: <a href=3D"https://about.me/liamproven" rel=3D"n=
>oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://about.me/liamproven</a> ~ L=
>inkedIn/X/FB: lproven<br>
>>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:lproven at cix.co.uk" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
>referrer">lproven at cix.co.uk</a> ~ Google: <a href=3D"mailto:lproven at gmail.c=
>om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">lproven at gmail.com</a><br>
>>IoM: (+44) 7624 227612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884<br>
>>Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053<br>
><br>
>Liam:<br>
><br>
>I understand that Xfce4 doesn't use Wayland, but the following packages=
><br>
>have been pulled in by something over time:<br>
><br>
>kwayland-data<br>
>kwayland-integration<br>
>libkf5waylandclient5<br>
>libnvidia-egl-wayland1<br>
>libqt5waylandclient5<br>
>libqt5waylandcompositor5<br>
>libqt6waylandclient6<br>
>libqt6waylandcompositor6<br>
>libqt6waylandeglclienthwintegration6<br>
>libqt6waylandeglcompositorhwintegration6<br>
>libva-wayland2<br>
>libwayland-client0<br>
>libwayland-cursor0<br>
>libwayland-egl1<br>
>libwayland-server0<br>
>qt6-wayland<br>
>qtwayland5<br>
>wayland-protocols<br>
><br>
>I'm not saying that Wayland proper is running, but I do wonder if some<=
>br>
>other program is using Wayland components in some way.=C2=A0 And I'm no=
>t even<br>
>saying that I have any clue that Wayland is involved at all; that's jus=
>t<br>
>what other have mentioned when I tried to research this problem.<br>
><br>
>In any case, other people are also experiencing the same thing and if anyon=
>e<br>
>does have any ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them.<br>
><br>
>Regards,<br>
>--<br>
>Jeffery Small<br>
><br>
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